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		<title>Kernel develpoment on e60</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that I have access to the serial console on Samsung e60 reader let&#8217;s build a new linux kernel for it. The e60 reader has an ARM processor, to compile the kernel we need a cross compilation toolchain. The first option is to use the one Samsung released with the other sources. It must work, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I have access to the <a href="http://silicone.homelinux.org/2011/03/22/serial-console-on-samsung-e60-reader/">serial console on Samsung e60 reader</a> let&#8217;s build a new linux kernel for it.</p>
<p>The e60 reader has an ARM processor, to compile the kernel we need a cross compilation toolchain.<br />
The first option is to use the one Samsung released with the other sources. It must work, however I don&#8217;t really like the idea to run binaries from unknown sources.<br />
The second option is to build our own toolchain, we often have to do that for systems that requires patches on the compiler.<br />
Here, Samsung&#8217;s binutils look like they were taken between 2.17 and 2.18 release (they are named 2.17.50 but are still slightly different from this snapshot) but they don&#8217;t seam to embed homemade patches. As for ggc I didn&#8217;t take time to check.<br />
I choose to use the <a href="http://www.emdebian.org/crosstools.html">emdebian cross-development toolchain</a> lenny version. (As the article in the french <a href="http://www.editions-diamond.com/opensilicium/index.php/edito-open-silicium-n%C2%B01" hreflang="fr">open silicium magazine #1</a> about FriendlyARM proposes to do).</p>
<h3>Installing the cross-development toolchain on debian</h3>
<p>First the archive keys:</p>
<pre>

sudo apt-get install emdebian-archive-keyring
</pre>
<p>Then we add a <code>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/emdebian.list</code> file with the following content:</p>
<pre>

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/emdebian/toolchains lenny main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/emdebian/toolchains lenny main
</pre>
<p>The we update the package list to install the needed packages:</p>
<pre>

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libc6-armel-cross libc6-dev-armel-cross libstdc++6-armel-cross binutils-arm-linux-gnueabi gcc-4.3-arm-linux-gnueabi g++-4.3-arm-linux-gnueabi
</pre>
<p>That&#8217;s it ! We have now our cross-compilation toolchain installed from packages, so easy to update or remove.</p>
<h3>The kernel sources</h3>
<p>Samsung released it&#8217;s modified 2.6.29.4 version. By cloning <a href="http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.29.y.git;a=summary">the kernel 2.6.29.y git branch</a>, I could quickly see that their changes applied well to the 2.6.29.6 version (the last in the branch).</p>
<p>In order to better sort the changes michel.s had splat them into several patches<br />
 (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/e60-open/source/browse/#svn%2Fpatches%2Fkernel">patchs on e60-open project</a>). After a few trials I build a <code>series</code> file allowing to apply those patches with <code>quilt</code> or better to import them to a git branch with <code>git quiltimport</code>. The order I choose allows to drop easily some patches (the last ones).</p>
<p>One particular point on those patches is that some include binary files:</p>
<ul>
<li><code>fs/rfs/*.o</code> a proprietary journaling layer over FAT. If you want my point ov vue, we don&#8217;t need that. After all we have free journaling file systems available and linux is able to mount something else than FAT over USB&#8230;</li>
<li><code>drivers/usb/gadget/file_storage.o</code> also the corresponding <code>.c</code> file was removed, the BSD/GPL license from the original code allows a binary distribution (however I didn&#8217;t check if Alan Stern&#8217;s name appears in the doc) but I&#8217;d have liked that Samsung give that source code.</li>
</ul>
<h3>U-Boot</h3>
<p>Before compiling the kernel, we need the <code>mkimage</code> utility from U-Boot. Here, Let&#8217;s build the U-Boot released by Samsung, and let&#8217;s just copy the <code>tools/mkimage</code> to a location in our PATH (that&#8217;s the only install method I could find).</p>
<pre>

make smdkc100_config
make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-

cp tools/mkimage ~/bin/
</pre>
<h3>Building linux</h3>
<p>For the config, one of the patches includes a <code>.config</code>. That file is a copy of <code>config_rfs</code> so even without the previous patch, we can get Samsung&#8217;s config.</p>
<p>Finally we can compile!</p>
<pre>

make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- CFLAGS="-march=armv4t -mtune=cortex-a8" CXXFLAGS="-march=armv4t -mtune=cortex-a8" ARCH=arm uImage
</pre>
<p>We can then load our kernel by following <a href="http://code.google.com/p/e60-open/wiki/HowToTestAKernel">The kernel testing howto from e60-open project</a>. To load the kernel we will need the following command:</p>
<pre>

sudo dnw arch/arm/boot/uImage
</pre>
<p>That&#8217;it, and it works ! Well almost, the kernel cannot find his modules. This will not be a big deal for the ones included in the sources (but the subject of a next post) but the <code>/lib/modules/max14540.ko</code> and <code>lib/modules/dhd.ko</code> modules are not included in the sources while reporting a GPL license to the kernel.</p>
<h3>Missing source code</h3>
<p>The <a href="http://opensource.samsung.com/">Samsung Open Source Release Center</a> website has a contact form, but it does not seam to work (I even booted my netbook on windows to try with IE8 without success). After browsing the <a href="http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/gsmgpspda/tablet/unique-samsung-ebook-sujet_22344_66.htm#para621535" hreflang="fr">french e60 forum</a> I found their email address and mailed them, no answer so far (not even automatic). Let&#8217;s wait &#8230;</p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>We can compile a kernel for the e60 reader without using the cross tools from Samsung.<br />
There still some work to load modules as the one on the reader are copiled for 2.6.29.4 and our kernel does not want to load them. (I&#8217;ve already done a few tests but that will be a next posts&#8217; topic.)<br />
But without the missing sources it will be hard for us to best use our e60 reader.</p>
<p>Update: I got an answer from Samsung, they updated the released archive. I still have to look at it.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of the Week (TXBW18)</title>
		<link>http://silicone.homelinux.org/2011/03/14/triage-x-bugs-of-the-week-txbw18/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better later than never, I restarted to triage last week, here is the report for it. #526095 ping &#038; close &#8211; KVM switch change makes mouse stop working. #495139 upstream &#8211; cleanlinks: warning in &#8220;find&#8221; usage. #550308 ping &#8211; x11-apps: xedit search dialog shows garbage. #555647 ping &#8211; x11-xserver-utils: xrandr -o left leaves xdm, after [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better later than never, I restarted to triage last week, here is the report for it.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/526095">#526095</a> ping &#038; close &#8211; KVM switch change makes mouse stop working.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/495139">#495139</a> upstream &#8211; cleanlinks: warning in &#8220;find&#8221; usage.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/550308">#550308</a> ping &#8211; x11-apps: xedit search dialog shows garbage.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/555647">#555647</a> ping &#8211; x11-xserver-utils: xrandr -o left leaves xdm, after I logout, unresponsive, with no login prompt.</li>
</ul>
<p>In the mean time, Cyril has been triaging a lot of bugs see <a href="http://blog.ikibiki.org/2011/03/04/DXN-7/">Debian XSF News #7</a>.<br />
But there are still 533 bugs to triage.</p>
<p>Mike Hommey recently wrote about <a href="http://glandium.org/blog/?p=1817">graphs for the Debian Bug Tracking System</a>. In particular there is now a per maintainer graph, so here it the <a href="http://qa.debian.org/data/bts/graphs/by-maint/debian-x@lists.debian.org.png">X Strike Force bug graph</a> ! (Note: the graph does not filter out some bugs as we do on UDD.</p>
<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of the Week (TXBW12)</title>
		<link>http://silicone.homelinux.org/2011/02/11/triage-x-bugs-of-the-week-txbw12/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This report is 2 week late&#8230; It was delayed by an important event, not the release of squeeze, but the birth of my first child: Célestine is born Monday the 31th of January. My wife and Célestine are both fine now but the firsts days were not that easy. I&#8217;m starting to recover from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This report is 2 week late&#8230; It was delayed by an important event, not the release of squeeze, but the birth of my first child: Célestine is born Monday the 31th of January.</p>
<p>My wife and Célestine are both fine now but the firsts days were not that easy. I&#8217;m starting to recover from the lack of sleep, but I&#8217;m still very late on my debian tasks <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  So I guess I just drop Triaging for week 13, 14 and maybe 15&#8230;</p>
<p>Now the bugs I triaged just before :</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/509489">#509489</a> ping &#038; merge with <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/492783">#492783</a> &#8211; Switching from tty to X by pressing Alt+cursorkey pass cursorkey keypress to X. OK for this user, waiting for more responses on other merged bugs&#8230;</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/515546">#515546</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; keys stick when switching consoles.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/369202">#369202</a> ping &#8211; randomly activated &#8216;access keys&#8217;.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/547143">#547143</a> ping, it&#8217;s <a href="http://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/howtos/configure-input.html">udev</a> now, not hal &#8211; xorg/evdev/HAL versus serial mouse &#8211; submitter said serial devices should be handled using <a href="http://packages.debian.org/sid/inputattach">inputattach</a>. I think It&#8217;s been added to some docs but didn&#8217;t take time to look at it.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/547888">#547888</a> ping &#038; closed by submitter thanks! &#8211; high CPU usage in X.org server after some time.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/489996">#489996</a> mail error, closed &#8211; problem auto-detecting / selecting some modes.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/550124">#550124</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; some modes aren&#8217;t recognized.</li>
</ul>
<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of 2011 first Weeks (TXBW9-10-11)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been lasy about the reporting lately, so this is a 3 weeks update at once ! The bug count according to udd is down to 818. I guess this is due to Kibi&#8216;s triaging on input related bugs, but I helped to close a few one too ! I kept my week numbering as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been lasy about the reporting lately, so this is a 3 weeks update at once !</p>
<p>The bug count according to udd is down to 818. I guess this is due to <a href="http://blog.ikibiki.org/2011/01/21/DXN-2/">Kibi</a>&#8216;s triaging on input related bugs, but I helped to close a few one too !</p>
<p>I kept my week numbering as before, so now I know the first bugs I pinged are more that 11 weeks old. I guess if some submitter did not answer in that delay, they will probably never do it. I think the bug count will go down again ! <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/451708">#451708</a> ping &#038; close &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: Option &#8220;GuestMouseOff&#8221; &#8220;true&#8221; not working.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/424743">#424743</a> ping &#038; forwarded &#8211; X11 pen driver doesn&#8217;t work on tabletPC Fujitsu Stylistic 2300 (fix included).</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/499664">#499664</a> ping, try nouveau &#8211; X fails to start with xserver-xorg-video-nv 1:2.1.12-1.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/512614">#512614</a> confirmed &#038; upstream &#8211; xset dpms rejects reasonable values as illegal.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/512711">#512711</a> ping and later closed &#8211; All keypresses repeated roughly three times each, makes login impossible.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/513128">#513128</a> ping &#8211; X server crashes every time when gnome-screensaver starts.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/486356">#486356</a> merge with <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/482592">#482592</a> &#8211; numlock led is inversed (using numlockx) .</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/515737">#515737</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; After upgrading from Etch to Lenny, mouse pointer is very slow and keys don&#8217;t repeat.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/515840">#515840</a> ping &#8211; Desktop is not using full screen after upgrade from etch to lenny.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/516860">#516860</a> closed after looking at the git history &#8211; Xorg with &#8216;-sharevts&#8217; use almost 100% of the CPU.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/362434">#362434</a> ping &#038; closed, suggested to try nouveau &#8211; nv has problems with xcursor-themes.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/502131">#502131</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; System gets into a `state&#8217; and fails to process modifier keys.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/453296">#453296</a> closed (old ping unanswered) &#8211; MacBook: cannot assign right mouse click to lower Enter key.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/504537">#504537</a> ping &#8211; X server eats CPU on sparc.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/502313">#502313</a> ping &#8211; Applications are getting &#8220;ghost&#8221; Alt keypress events, but I press no keys.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/527118">#527118</a> ping &#8211; autoadded input devices kill X server.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/270887">#270887</a> forwarded &#8211; startx and xinit do not preserve client arguments.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/542542">#542542</a> closed after looking at the git history &#8211; non-VGA compatible graphics devices won&#8217;t run X.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/492888">#492888</a> ping &#8211; xorg ignores keystrokes.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/543210">#543210</a> merge with <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/492783">#492783</a> &#8211; Alt-F7 to return to X, passes F7 key to top focus&#8217;d window.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/524413">#524413</a> closed &#8211; xauth fails with xorg 7.4, this was actually an xinit bug and the git log lead to <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/549377">#549377</a> being closed&#8230;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/01/msg00433.html">The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</a></p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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		<title>Triaging bugs is not that hard !</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a big thread on -devel that started about Forwarding bugs upstream, the idea is that it should be the maintainer&#8217;s job. While it&#8217;s true in general, some understaffed teams are so flooded by bugs that they just can&#8217;t do it. I&#8217;ve seen more than once the X Strike Force asking a user to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a big thread on -devel that started about <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/01/msg00309.html">Forwarding bugs upstream</a>, the idea is that it should be the maintainer&#8217;s job. While it&#8217;s true in general, some understaffed teams are so flooded by bugs that they just can&#8217;t do it.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen more than once the X Strike Force asking a user to report upstream (pointing to the relevant BTS) and come back with the tracking URL to be attached to the bug. This was mostly for driver issue if I remember well.<br />
And most users did it, so thanks!</p>
<p>Then the thread evolved in lots of directions, I&#8217;m not following all of it, but there was the question of the bug triaging and as I&#8217;m doing it for the X packages, I want to share about my experience here.</p>
<h3>The available triaging docs</h3>
<p>The debian wiki already have a general <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/BugTriage">Bug Triage</a> page.<br />
The thread pointed to the <a href="http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/bugs.html">KDE Bug triaging</a> page.<br />
The X Strike Force has some pages, <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">one on the wiki</a> and a new one more specific to <a href="http://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/howtos/triage-bugs.html">bug triaging on the alioth project&#8217;s doc</a>.<br />
And when it comes to closing bugs with version information, there is a good read on the wiki: <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/BugsVersionTracking">Bugs Version Tracking</a>.<br />
Finally don&#8217;t hesitate to reopen the <a href="http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control">BTS documentation</a> whenever you need to write to control@b.d.o !</p>
<p>Now if all those docs don&#8217;t help you, then try to improve the docs as a first step ! <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h3>Talk with the maintainer(s)</h3>
<p>Well I did met Julien Cristau and Cyril Brulebois in person during <a href="http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Miniconf-Paris/2010">mini-DebConf Paris/2010</a> that certainly helped. But we exchanged several mails, or met on IRC channel #debian-x.<br />
But the triaging rules of the X Strike Force (linked above) were pretty clear anyway.</p>
<h3>My current process</h3>
<p>This process has evolved over time with the response of several contributors either to help or to fix to my mistakes, thanks!</p>
<ol>
<li>List bug from UDD: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</li>
<li>Pick an old bug (once you answer and UDD runs, the bug moves down the list, so there are always old bugs on the top).</li>
<li>Read the report, don&#8217;t be afraid by the subject, it might be unrelated, the bug might be merged with other bugs, then reading the other bugs can help.</li>
<li>If relevant try to reproduce it. (most bugs in X are hardware related or specific to one setup, so it&#8217;s not that often that I have something to test).</li>
<li>Decide what to do, most of the time, I will &#8216;ping&#8217; the submitter.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a mutt user, and to my help the <code>bts</code> command as a way to open the bug mbox in mutt, that makes it really easy to answer the bug.<br />
So I launch <code>bts -m show $n</code> where <code>$n</code> is the bug number, and I can then answer the bug from mutt.<br />
The triaging procedure suggest to ping -submitter, but using mutt it&#8217;s easier to just reply and add a -quiet to the bug number (this avoid spamming the debian-x with all my pings).</li>
<li>In the message, always try to be kind and helpful, most of the time ask to test newer versions.</li>
<li>Keep track of the pinged bugs, well I do it for my blog but it will be useful anyway, see below.</li>
<li>When the submitter answers, just react accordingly, if the bug can be closed, then close it ! <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>If after some time, the bug are still not answered, consider closing them (I haven&#8217;t started that yet, but this will probably get the bug number down faster:) ).</li>
</ol>
<p>Note: Sometime I don&#8217;t send the bug to -quiet so that other debian-x subscriber can have a look at the bug. They then can give me advices, or close the bug directly with a stronger reason than any I could have found. <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To submitters, please keep the bug CCed when you answer, thanks.</p>
<h3>For the skeptics</h3>
<p>Yes as a newbie I did some mistakes, but I was always corrected in a nice way, with explanations. Also I try to have a conservative approach, I don&#8217;t close bugs if I&#8217;m not sure, I ask if I can close them, so it might take longer, but in the end the effect is the same for the bug, but not the same to the submitter ! <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also this work might look boring, but it&#8217;s actually rewarding, most of the answers I received included a cheerful message thanking me for following up on the bug. Not to mention all I&#8217;ve learned on Xorg.</p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>As long as I have time for it, I&#8217;ll continue to triage bugs and I&#8217;d love to see others coming to help me on X or probably better go and help some other teams that also need help, and flood the planet with bug triaging reports ! <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Get involved !</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy new year ! #440495, #437255 ping &#8211; Keyboard steal after stopping touchpad. #476143 Closed: submitter never answered Brice&#8217;s request &#8211; xserver-xorg-video-nv: Driver reports wrong display size. #468331 ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-kbd: xorg.conf okay, no AltGr though but &#8220;setxkbmap -variant nodeadkeys de&#8221; works. #498210 ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-kbd: ctrl:nocaps keycode 66 is on both the control and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy new year !</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/440495">#440495</a>, <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/437255">#437255</a> ping &#8211; Keyboard steal after stopping touchpad.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/476143">#476143</a> Closed: submitter never answered Brice&#8217;s request &#8211; xserver-xorg-video-nv: Driver reports wrong display size.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/468331">#468331</a> ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-kbd: xorg.conf okay, no AltGr though but &#8220;setxkbmap -variant nodeadkeys de&#8221; works.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/498210">#498210</a> ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-kbd: ctrl:nocaps keycode 66 is on both the control and shiftlock modifier list.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/488685">#488685</a> ping &#038; close: hardware not available anymore &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-kbd: Acer TravelMate 2303M : the &#8216;Fn&#8217; key is inverted.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/511910">#511910</a> ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-evtouch 0.8.7-3 does not work with HAL.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/513297">#513297</a> close &#8211; x11-xkb-utils: When I use the setxkbmap command i get the following error: Error loading new keyboard description.</li>
</ul>
<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of the Christmas Week (TXBW7)</title>
		<link>http://silicone.homelinux.org/2010/12/23/triage-x-bugs-of-the-christmas-week-txbw7/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some reason1 bug #607242 did not make it to the debian-x@d.o mailing list, I got aware of it only by the message shirish sent to my blog. If he didn&#8217;t write to me, this bug will have waited for what&#8230; about 3 years until I got all the 800+ bugs triaged ? So please [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason<sup><a href="#note1">1</a></sup> bug <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/607242">#607242</a> did not make it to the debian-x@d.o mailing list, I got aware of it only by the message shirish sent to my blog.<br />
If he didn&#8217;t write to me, this bug will have waited for what&#8230; about 3 years until I got all the 800+ bugs triaged ? So  please you can help triaging X bugs, first subscribe to the debian-x mailing list so you can get the feeling of what to respond to some bugs, and join the TXBW effort <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/607242">#607242</a> reassign &#038; give+ask moreinfo.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/403350">#403350</a> ping &#038; try nouveau &#8211; xserver-xorg-video-nv: xset dpms force off does not turn off the backlight.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/469104">#469104</a> config suggestions &#038; close &#8211; xserver-xorg-video-tdfx: screen resolution too low.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/476198">#476198</a> closed &#8211; xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd: Cannot turn on a secondary screen without restarting X (xrandr-related problem).</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/492783">#492783</a> ping, unreproducible &#8211; vt switch key combination leaks to clients.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/496150">#496150</a> ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-core: shutting off monitor messes up display.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/504104">#504104</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; xserver-xorg-input-mouse: Emulate3Buttons stops working from time to time.</li>
</ul>
<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
<p><span id="note1">Note 1:</span> The Xorg.0.log file was so huge that the mailing list did not accept the mail.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of the Week 6 (TXBW6)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An other week, a few more bugs looked, unfortunately in the mean time the number of bug grew to 875&#8230; #471423 ping &#8211; ati driver ignore Option &#8220;Enable&#8221; &#8220;false&#8221; in monitor section, but accept the undocumented Option &#8220;Disable&#8221; &#8220;true&#8221;. #468561 ping &#038; closed &#8211; vesa: switching resolution with xrandr after suspend-to-ram. #447526 ping &#8211; memory [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An other week, a few more bugs looked, unfortunately in the mean time the number of bug grew to 875&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/471423">#471423</a> ping &#8211; ati driver ignore Option &#8220;Enable&#8221; &#8220;false&#8221; in monitor section, but accept the undocumented Option &#8220;Disable&#8221; &#8220;true&#8221;.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/468561">#468561</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; vesa: switching resolution with xrandr after suspend-to-ram.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/447526">#447526</a> ping &#8211; memory leaks.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/475534">#475534</a> closed &#8211; as reported said, oclock seams to work correctly&#8230;</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/466044">#466044</a> ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-core: internal screen of laptop with external screen attached not blanked when laptop closed but still in use.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/482317">#482317</a> ping &#8211; libxt6: scroll list overflow in gv.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/425814">#425814</a> ping &#8211; xserver-xorg-video-ati: Xv broken on Mach64 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133.</li>
</ul>
<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of the Week 4 and 5 (TXBW4-5)</title>
		<link>http://silicone.homelinux.org/2010/12/09/triage-x-bugs-of-the-week-4-and-5-txbw4-5/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I was too busy for the triaging work, so I did more this week&#8230; Anyway there are still some 871 bug candidate for triaging, so again, any help would be appreciated ! Also I&#8217;d like to thank again people giving me cheers and advices when they receive my pings The buglist now: #419986 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I was too busy for the triaging work, so I did more this week&#8230; Anyway there are still some 871 bug candidate for triaging, so again, any help would be appreciated !</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;d like to thank again people giving me cheers and advices when they receive my pings <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The buglist now:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/419986">#419986</a> ping &#038; close &#8211; server lockups related to dri.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/415588">#415588</a> ping &#8211; modelines are ignored.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/417601">#417601</a> ping &#038; close &#8211; mga dri issue.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/439357">#439357</a> closed &#8211; 3 year old install issue&#8230; Not relevant anymore&#8230;</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/377847">#377847</a> ping &#8211; nv driver: No way to set 1600&#215;1200, apparently it works with nouveau.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/449039">#449039</a> ping &#8211; crash with too many remote clients.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/440880">#440880</a> closed &#8211; 3 year old, user never replied.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/457440">#457440</a> ping &#8211; ctrl-alt keyboard combinations ceased working after prompts by ratpoison.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/413691">#413691</a> ping &#038; closed &#8211; arrow keys sometimes produce repeated digits.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/451537">#451537</a> ping then closed by submitter &#8211; Can no longer scroll up/down with edge of touchpad.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/437254">#437254</a> ping &#8211; touchpad issue, at first the reported tried to hack out a patch&#8230;</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/444183">#444183</a> ping &#8211; macbook xserver-xorg-input-mouse: Vertical scrolling doesn&#8217;t work anymore.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/445625">#445625</a> ping: try nouveau? &#8211; crash with nv driver and dual head configuration.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/428091">#428091</a> ping &#8211; Display has wrong colours and is offset (in 16bpp only).</li>
</ul>
<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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		<title>Triage X Bugs of the Week 3 (TXBW3)</title>
		<link>http://silicone.homelinux.org/2010/11/26/triage-x-bugs-of-the-week-3-txbw3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week it has been harder for me to start on this&#8230; but KiBi&#8217;s post Debian XSF News #1 pushed me to continue. Thanks for the cheers! #331637 ping &#8211; Xrandr disabled while Xorg log says the opposite. #321357 tagged wontfix &#8211; xset behaves as intended, there is no easy way to set keyboard autorepeat [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week it has been harder for me to start on this&#8230; but KiBi&#8217;s post <a href="http://blog.ikibiki.org/2010/11/25/DXN-1/">Debian XSF News #1</a> pushed me to continue. Thanks for the cheers!</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/331637">#331637</a> ping &#8211; Xrandr disabled while Xorg log says the opposite.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/321357">#321357</a> tagged wontfix &#8211; xset behaves as intended, there is no easy way to set keyboard autorepeat for single key&#8230;</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/242442">#242442</a> close &#8211; xclock -rv looks visible to me.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/427346">#427346</a> close &#8211; was already tagged unreproducible, I couldn&#8217;t reproduce it either so I closed it.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/169239">#169239</a> ping &#8211; 8 year old wish&#8230; probably too late ?</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/431449">#431449</a> ping &#8211; xmodmap errors when launched by keyboard shortcut.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/202923">#202923</a> close &#8211; xorg has timestamps in server log messages.</li>
<li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/252214">#252214</a> tagged wontfix &#8211; Andrew Pimlott (reporter) said &#8220;This bug probable needs a NOBODYCARES tag. <img src='http://silicone.homelinux.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221; so wontfix will do it.</li>
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<p>The X Strike Force (still) needs you !</p>
<p>You can have a look at the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/BugClosingProcedure">X Strike Force Bug Closing Procedure</a> and check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=sid&#038;patch=ign&#038;pending=ign&#038;security=ign&#038;wontfix=ign&#038;upstream=ign&#038;forwarded=ign&#038;claimed=ign&#038;deferred=ign&#038;notmain=&#038;notsqueeze=&#038;base=&#038;standard=&#038;merged=ign&#038;done=ign&#038;outdatedsqueeze=&#038;outdatedsid=&#038;needmig=&#038;newerubuntu=&#038;fnewer=&#038;fnewerval=7&#038;xsf=1&#038;sortby=last_modified&#038;sorto=asc&#038;cseverity=1&#038;ctags=1">XSF unstable bugs sorted by date</a>.</p>
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